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07/22/2003 Archived Entry: "Things Tony Blair Says"

Whenever Tony Blair is accused by Tories of managing something badly, he responds by saying that he spends more money on it than they do, as though it is impossible to spend more money and do something badly. Here's an example from the June 18 PMQs:


Mr. Duncan Smith: I have not finished yet. The Prime Minister will not get away as easily as that.

Let me remind the Prime Minister what he actually did pledge. Eight months ago, at the Labour party conference, he said that transport under Labour was "probably the worst area of public services". Will he explain how full-time chaos on the roads can be dealt with by a part-time Secretary of State for Transport?

The Prime Minister: I am sorry if the right hon. Gentleman is not prepared to acknowledge that I now agree with Conservative party policy, at least in relation to the Secretary of State for Scotland. As for transport, we are investing billions of pounds in our transport system. That is public investment, and also private sector investment.

The problem that the right hon. Gentleman must explain is this. That investment programme was put to the House a short time ago, and it was voted against by the Conservative party. How can the right hon. Gentleman say that he is going to improve the state of Britain's roads and railways when he has opposed the investment that will make that possible?

Mr. Duncan Smith: It is the usual story. The Prime Minister is rattling out the same old Labour lie machine, every single time. [Interruption.] Oh yes.

Let us remind the Prime Minister exactly what state all his transport policy is in. One in five trains is now late. Train services are being cut by his Government. Train fares are set to be increased by his Government. Congestion on the roads is growing every single day.

So the Prime Minister thinks that a record like that�a record of chaos like that�can be dealt with by appointing a part-time Secretary of State for Transport.

He must be the only person who does. Is that not the real reason why every pledge he makes is broken, and no one believes a single word he says any more?

The Prime Minister: First, let me say something about rail punctuality. Until the Hatfield rail crash, it was more or less constant. It is true that since Hatfield we have realised that the state of the railway infrastructure was infinitely worse than was anticipated. It is for that very reason, however, that we are committed to substantial investment. There are billions of pounds of public money, and also private sector money.

Now�can the right hon. Gentleman tell us whether he is in favour of that extra investment or not? One thing is for sure: spending less money on transport is not going to help it.

Replies: 153 comments

I agree that Tony Blair is prone to citing increased government expenditure as proof of his political virtue. Unfortunately, while calling Blair on that particular fallacy, Iain Duncan Smith has has not come up with any coherent alternative proposals.

Posted by Kolya @ 07/24/2003 02:34 AM EST

What's the word for an argument-by-repetition? there must be some clever-clever Latin phrase for it.

What Iain and Duncan Smith should have said...

"You're throwing money at it but it's not getting any better. Explain THAT"

With spend-more-of-other-people's-money=The-Right-Answer so firmly etched on his mind, ring-fenced against all attack, I suppose Mr Blair wouldn't be able to hear the criticism.

Posted by emma @ 07/24/2003 01:52 PM EST

As is often the case in ideological duels, Blair and Duncan Smith focus on the poverty of each other's ideas, while remaining studiously oblivious to that of their own.

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